splutcho
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Been at work all day and having read this, I'm glad. Really don't see us staying up. Feel very deflated.
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Canaryboy
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Sorry to say it but I just think we don't have enough quality all over the pitch to stay in this league. We arguing about whether to play one Championship standard right back, or another Championship standard right back, or another Championship standard right back, and no matter which one we choose we'll have a Championship standard right back.
We could gamble on a 4-4-2 with Tettey and Mulumbu in the middle and play through the wingers, but look at how many balls we put into the box yesterday so don't see how that would help either. Could try inverted wingers, although then we'll have arguments about why Mbokani isn't scoring
We've just lost three games in a row which we'd have considered winnable, and the fixture list has been kind to us in the first quarter of a season.
I'm now pinning my hopes on people like Wisdom, VOO, and even Lafferty being able to come in and make the difference, and I think that says something.
I think what we're really missing is a talisman of some sort. Makes me wonder whether we should have thrown a load of money at Berbatov.
Jarvis was impressive on the face of it and his pace and high work rate has surprised me a little to be honest, but I did point out when we signed him that he had a season where he famously put in the most crosses in the entire league, in 2012/13, and do you know how many assists he had to his name that season? Zero.
So if winning corner after corner to be taken by Jarvis or getting the ball to Jarvis on the byeline played any part in the strategy or was supposed to be our primary outlet yesterday then we can knock that one on the head.
We could gamble on a 4-4-2 with Tettey and Mulumbu in the middle and play through the wingers, but look at how many balls we put into the box yesterday so don't see how that would help either. Could try inverted wingers, although then we'll have arguments about why Mbokani isn't scoring
We've just lost three games in a row which we'd have considered winnable, and the fixture list has been kind to us in the first quarter of a season.
I'm now pinning my hopes on people like Wisdom, VOO, and even Lafferty being able to come in and make the difference, and I think that says something.
I think what we're really missing is a talisman of some sort. Makes me wonder whether we should have thrown a load of money at Berbatov.
Jarvis was impressive on the face of it and his pace and high work rate has surprised me a little to be honest, but I did point out when we signed him that he had a season where he famously put in the most crosses in the entire league, in 2012/13, and do you know how many assists he had to his name that season? Zero.
So if winning corner after corner to be taken by Jarvis or getting the ball to Jarvis on the byeline played any part in the strategy or was supposed to be our primary outlet yesterday then we can knock that one on the head.
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Dubai Mark
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Despite everything we again should have won that game, very frustrating.
I much prefer Martin at CB and also feel that Whittaker should have kept his place.
But I am also wondering what has happened to the team energy we had early doors?
Tough times, but we knew all knew it would be surely.......but did expect some points from those last three games, it hurts!
Oh, thank god Ruddy kept his place I say, a couple of top class saves to keep us in with a chance.
I much prefer Martin at CB and also feel that Whittaker should have kept his place.
But I am also wondering what has happened to the team energy we had early doors?
Tough times, but we knew all knew it would be surely.......but did expect some points from those last three games, it hurts!
Oh, thank god Ruddy kept his place I say, a couple of top class saves to keep us in with a chance.
morty
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I really am starting to question Alex Neil's tactical naivety now, and he better learn quick, because its costing us dearly.
We cannot have Redmond and Hoolahan in the same team, at least not right now, unless Redmond starts to share a bit more defensive responsability, far too often we are exposed down the right flank, and Whittaker gets the blame, or in the case of yesterday, Martin. Who, for the record, isn't as good a RB as Whitts, and doesn't attack as well either.
Alex keeps going on about how important it is to score the first goal, well whats his plan when we don't? We started brightly, then shat ourselves when we realised we hadn't scored a goal. But as bright as it was, I don't think it looked like a team who wanted to right wrongs from last week, there was little spark.
We went from one extreme to the other, Newcastle, way too open, then yesterday, way too compact, making Wes totally ineffective because he wasn't far enough up the pitch.
We desperately need some pace up front, I would have brought Grabban on yesterday instead of Jerome, our attacks were turgid and predictable, bread and butter for the baggies defence.
We cannot have Redmond and Hoolahan in the same team, at least not right now, unless Redmond starts to share a bit more defensive responsability, far too often we are exposed down the right flank, and Whittaker gets the blame, or in the case of yesterday, Martin. Who, for the record, isn't as good a RB as Whitts, and doesn't attack as well either.
Alex keeps going on about how important it is to score the first goal, well whats his plan when we don't? We started brightly, then shat ourselves when we realised we hadn't scored a goal. But as bright as it was, I don't think it looked like a team who wanted to right wrongs from last week, there was little spark.
We went from one extreme to the other, Newcastle, way too open, then yesterday, way too compact, making Wes totally ineffective because he wasn't far enough up the pitch.
We desperately need some pace up front, I would have brought Grabban on yesterday instead of Jerome, our attacks were turgid and predictable, bread and butter for the baggies defence.
Wiz
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Basically, he's out of his depth now.
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Baggie192
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I actually believe you'll be fine. The club knew when Neil was appointed he was inexperienced. He's got you up and has 9pts already. Billy Davies's entire point total for the whole year! Pulis although we're 8th, he makes me want to stick red hot needles my eyes. Look at our cup game he played Vic Anichebe as defensive midfielder he wanted out of that cup. I expect the same for F.A. Cup. The canney bleeder knows the league though he does just enough to save his skin. If Neil doesn't get anything between now and christmas then maybe he should go, and, I only say that because his replacement should have the winter window. I think he'll get the results and If the board back him you'll be OK. Let's face it you could have Sherwood
morty
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I think we'll be fine too, but he needs to get streetwise. I think perhaps a few fans got a bit carried with his record in the Championship, and expected more of the same this season.I actually believe you'll be fine. The club knew when Neil was appointed he was inexperienced. He's got you up and has 9pts already. Billy Davies's entire point total for the whole year! Pulis although we're 8th, he makes me want to stick red hot needles my eyes. Look at our cup game he played Vic Anichebe as defensive midfielder he wanted out of that cup. I expect the same for F.A. Cup. The canney bleeder knows the league though he does just enough to save his skin. If Neil doesn't get anything between now and christmas then maybe he should go, and, I only say that because his replacement should have the winter window. I think he'll get the results and If the board back him you'll be OK. Let's face it you could have Sherwood
Good point about Sherwood
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Baggie192
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Different leagues though As much as I dislike Pulis's style. We needed him for Stability which we haven't had since Roy Hodgson really, he'll be Albion until our sale goes through. Sadly for Norwich the last time you were up you fell foul of Hughton's only truly bad season in mangement. That time the board waited too long to sack him. If Neil can get 4pts in the run up to Christmas then he should have the season. Otherwise, you'll be our position with Steve Clarke,Pepe Mel and Alan Irvine. Then it's so much harder to stay up. There are dire teams in this league, and, neither of us are one of themI think we'll be fine too, but he needs to get streetwise. I think perhaps a few fans got a bit carried with his record in the Championship, and expected more of the same this season.
Good point about Sherwood
morty
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I think what you have benefitted from though is a bit of longevity in the league. Similar to us, you're not loaded, but if you can stay in this league and improve bit by bit, then you can establish, much as you have done after yo-yoing for a few seasons. And really the Hughton thing was a catch 22 for the board, they have said since that he would have gone in the summer anyway, regardless if he had kept us up. What made it all the more dramatic was that game against you, all we had to do was win, and we would have been all but safe. Not one person, either Norwich or neutral predicted we would lose that day, and we fell hard, and the board had no choice but to sack him.
morty
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And right on cue, Sherwood sacked lol!
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