Loans

[The Great Mass Debater]

How do you feel about loans? We've seen bad ones (too many to comprehensively list, but Gutierrez and Harry Kane jump instantly to mind, and most of Glenn Roeders signings),and we've seen good ones (Huckerby, Forster, Naughton, arguably Kamara gave us a boost).

We have plenty of youth on the verge, and in Adams, a man who knows them well and wont be scared to show them some faith.

But how do you feel about loans?

Personally Id rather we developed our own youth than somebody elses, and have no interest in journeyman players not wanted by their parent clubs, unless it was a poorly judged cast off from a newly promoted Premier League team.

So generally, I say no to loans, and would be delighted if we didnt bring anyone in on loan. Seems its almost obligatory to bring in loan players these days though - so how do you feel?

 

[skijumptoes]

I think as backup they're ok, but not to build a squad around, when you consider what Huckerby brought to our squad as a loanee is frightful that we became so reliant on him in such a short time.  Just thankful that matey from Diss stumped some money up enabling us to buy him.  Was Dion originally a loan too? I can't remember.

Crouch also was a good loan, at the same time.

It used to be a good system in my eyes, providing youngsters with avenues to hone their game, but big clubs tend to keep them under wraps now and tend to only let out under performing overpaid players.

I think generally we put plenty in to the loan system and they all tend to do well at lower levels, can't think of someone recent that we loaned out over several seasons who returned to become a first team player though (?!),because that aspect is just as important when looking at the loan system.

I think Kamara was an ideal loanee, where he's done well in a different country and we took a look at him.  I think that 'trial' approach of a loan is good, the player is likely to put the effort in if the end target is a permanent move.

 

[ZLF]

I think we have done ok out of loans,    in our last two promotions loanees played a crucial part in cost effectively providing quality and options.   The key is getting the right player ad keeping the volume low;  no roederesque scatter gun approach;  targeted and selective and better than we have - but thats the same for permanent and loan signings.

I do prefer to develop and own;   but where we have a need (right now a centre back springs to mind) that we cant solve internally (relying on seb seems a no go,  and gafaiti is a talent,   but too young to want to rely on - no starts yet,  t his is his season for a gradual introduction).  IF buying proves a problem a selected cb on loan suits me down to the ground,.    

 

[Canaryboy]

Season long loans seem to do much better than short term loans.

Also an opportunity to do business after the main transfer window closes. 

 

[CJRV2014]

I think someone like Martin Kelly of Liverpool a CB/RB would be a good season long loan. Suit both parties.

 

[Bethnal Yellow and Green]

I'm expecting a couple of young loanee players to come in after the window has closed. I think Adams isn't planning any more business unless more players leave.

Whilst Norwich had a bad experience with loaned players under Roeder, building a team around 6 or 7 is obviously a bad idea - one or two good young players to supplement the squad at key points in the season is a good plan.

Look at Derby with Wisdom and then Bamford helping them to the play-off final.

Whilst Norwich have some good young players, there is no one really close to stepping up beyond the Murphys and Loza and Norwich are only a couple of injuries away from some serious player shortage in certain areas, especially defence.

I understand the desire to put young Norwich players before those of other clubs, but if there are good young players available it would be silly of Norwich to avoid them out of some "no to loans" attitude.

 

[flashdown]

Season long loans seem to do much better than short term loans.

Also an opportunity to do business after the main transfer window closes. 

I completely agree. Season long loans provide a better time frame for a loanee to integrate into the squad.  And I think that having the option to buy the player at the end of the loan is the way to go.  Looking back, it would have been nice to keep Naughton for instance.  Especially now with our defense concerns.

 

[BarclayBoy88]

I think my opinion is in line with most here. You simply can't build a squad around loan players, and I think 2 loan players should be the maximum for any team. However I love the loan system in general and think it plays a vital part in the structure of English football. Season long loans with an option to buy is by far the best case scenario, and I'm not a massive fan of one month loans.

If you are a poor talent evaluator then it doesn't matter if it's a loan or a permanent transfer, the players won't offer value. That was the problem with Roeder. However we can't always give our young players the game time they need, so having the option to send players like Jacob Murphy and Carlton Morris out on loan to gain football league experience is superb. 

Overall I'm very much in favour of the loan system. 

 

[Branston Pickle]

Loans did get a bad press in Roeder's time (and also Gunn's - some of his were rather ropey),but used sensibly you can get a decent player who very much enhances your playing squad, one you would never be able to buy, like Naughton. The problem as ever is identifying the decent ones from the ropey - you can never be sure how it will pan out but nearly all sides have loanees in them nowadays.

 

[Surgeryman]

How do you feel about loans? We've seen bad ones (too many to comprehensively list, but Gutierrez and Harry Kane jump instantly to mind, and most of Glenn Roeders signings),and we've seen good ones (Huckerby, Forster, Naughton, arguably Kamara gave us a boost).

We have plenty of youth on the verge, and in Adams, a man who knows them well and wont be scared to show them some faith.

But how do you feel about loans?

Personally Id rather we developed our own youth than somebody elses, and have no interest in journeyman players not wanted by their parent clubs, unless it was a poorly judged cast off from a newly promoted Premier League team.

So generally, I say no to loans, and would be delighted if we didnt bring anyone in on loan. Seems its almost obligatory to bring in loan players these days though - so how do you feel?

I quite liked Mo Kamara at left back.

 

[Yellow Fever]

Loans should fill a specific need with an option to buy. Garrido was a good example. This year is a chance for young players to push on and I'd be concerned about a loan coming in to block Gafaiti's progress, or Loza as well.