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Ricky

The Great Mass Debater

The Great Mass Debater

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Wonder if we'll have a sell-on fee or add-ons if he moves permenantly?

Wonder if we could make some extra money by (if he goes) selling a T-Shirt for all those at the Everton game that says 'I saw RvW score'. Would you buy one?!
 
CanaryOnTheWire

CanaryOnTheWire

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I believe the Ricky £8.5m deal was structured and some of the clauses were performance related.

If Ricky IS off to St Etienne for 2m euro loan fee and 6m future fee, which is roughly £6.3m

Then assuming a chunk of the £8.5m for Ricky was performance related- he hasn't performed.

So we may actually be getting all our money back.
 
Canaryboy

Canaryboy

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It was reported as 10 million euros + 2 million in add ons.

So that would have been £8.5m fee, with add ons on top.

The French league is quite physical though isn't it? Wonder whether he will have the same problems over there.
 
Gaffer

Gaffer

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I haven't read anything about a loan fee and I doubt any club would pay 2 million euros.
 
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CanaryNath

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I'd be surprised if there was no loan fee.

A year-long loan of a player, without paying anything for the loan period up front, is rare.
 
CanaryOnTheWire

CanaryOnTheWire

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There will be a loan fee. And CanaryBoy, we would not have paid a flat 8.5m fee.

Just because it isn't an 'add on' doesn't mean the fee isnt structured into instalments which could performance based.
 
Yellow Fever

Yellow Fever

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I also feel sure there would be a loan fee as a proportion of his market value. St Etienne are no minnows.
 
morty

morty

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Rumour now (you know where) that we are paying some of Ricky's wages.

Where do people get this stuff lol, its like they make it up just so they have something to get angry about!
 
CanaryOnTheWire

CanaryOnTheWire

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Idiots. No real surprise on the Oink'un (no typo intended)
 
The Great Mass Debater

The Great Mass Debater

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I remember Leeds paying Robbie Fowler £30,000 a week to play for Man City (to ahem get him off their wage bill). Poor Man City said they couldnt afford to pay all his wages and that they really couldnt pay 7m for him so would have to buy him for 3.5m instead. Leeds fell over themselves to get such a great deal of course
 
CanaryOnTheWire

CanaryOnTheWire

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Christophe Galtier has confirmed he has met Van Wolfswinkel for lunch and that there will be a medical tomorrow.
 
skijumptoes

skijumptoes

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This translated from a french website (Space foot) reporting on Galtier press conference:-

In a press conference that took the time, Christophe Galtier gave an update on the summer transfer window Greens. The Etienne coach has delivered including the transfer of Ricky Van Wolfswinkel arrived this morning at the airport in Lyon: "He's here. He passes his medical. It remains to agree with Norwich. If there was no possibility of this loan, he would not be there. He is a man of surface. I hope he will join us. "And he continues:" For his name, we will see how we will do on the jersey ... I'll call Ricky. "New Green attacker was indeed lent for one year with an option to purchase up to 6 million euros.

Seems pretty much certain to me.
 
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BroadstairsR

BroadstairsR

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I regret this move as I feel that he would have made a decent contribution in the coming season. I can see the logic concerning the wages bill (but have we reached that stage already considering £23m in parachute money?) and also that Adam's might well have preferred his own men from the outset. He was pretty quick to get alternative strikers in and also took time out to ramp up Gary Hooper on more than one occasion.

Everything that has come out, either from RVW or the Club recently has been diplomatic and no more. I do sense the agent's influence in all this though ..... "The Championship is no stage for Ricky Van Wolfswinkle" is rich after the way last season turned out for all concerned. I would hope the player himself blushed at that nonsense.


I do very much fail to see the 'agreed fee' part of the deal, if that is the actual case.

So if Ricky comes good, with the added exposure of the Europa Cup, St. Etienne get him cut-price and we lose out on a player who may have finally risen to expectations. 

Even a loan fee, full wages and a decent wedge at the end of it won't compensate for this with the price of strikers nowadays. 

If he fails again, then we get him back.

Lose, lose for me.

In sum, the signing of Ricky Van Wolfswinkle was probably the bravest piece of transfer activity in the history of our Club. If this business is not mostly motivated by the player or his agent then I will be able to hear the clucking at Carrow Road in Broadstairs.
 
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BroadstairsR

BroadstairsR

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Ricky has been a massive disappointment and a complete waste of money, but I will be sad to see him go. Doesn't make any sense.

I know what you mean. Good character with an air of vulnerability in the hard world of professional football. 

I will add that many of us recognise that he has, one way or another, been one of the unluckiest players ever to don the yellow.

I suppose those few notables who have had career-ending injuries whilst fighting for the cause will dispute Ricky's  relative lack of good fortune though.
 
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windy

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I still dont know how I feel about this!! Maybe we will know more after tonights friendly. What gets my goat more is from the get go Adams has told every one has a chance and the slate has been wiped clean! Granted Ricky has "Took a knock" so has been out of a few games, but it seems as if he never stood a chance!!

All these interviews Adams is giving... " We dont need to sell, only if a daft offer comes in" just seems like a "come and take all our best players" plea!!

If we really dont need to sell the only thing he should say is " No City player is for sale".

Anyone else feel we will lose Redderz and Fer next?
 
Gaffer

Gaffer

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Adams will fight for Redderz as he is clearly very much in his plans. Personally I think we should just say he's not for sale at any price. No reason at all for us to sell him now, especially as he's expressed a desire to stay.
 
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bloodwagon

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Well Iam not happy with this news, I think its bloody madness, give him a chance, lets see what he can do in the Championship. Who knows he just might find his shooting boots. Needless to say ill be watching how Ricky is doing over there.

Adams giving everyone a clean slate, yeah right !!!!
 
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