morty
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This feels like a biggie, time to produce a real performance to quieten down the more nervous amongst us.
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GJP
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Brighton are very decent but at the same time they aren't anything to write home about.
Which might go for us too. But you would think, as with pretty much anyone we play in this league, if we bring our best game then we should get a good result.
Which might go for us too. But you would think, as with pretty much anyone we play in this league, if we bring our best game then we should get a good result.
Fenway Frank
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Ham rolls made, crisps, sweets, see you later ?
Dubai Mark
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I too see this as a biggie, Brighton were close last season and have continued this, good strong steady side with an excellent Manager who knows the ropes at this level. A Manager who will know exactly how to negate Wes for example, and who knows, again at this level, how to get results.
I just want to see a fearless Norwich City who take the game to Brighton and do not wait for them to come at us, whilst I understand this clean sheet thing, with the players we have I want to see us out score teams for the three points, not a lot to ask.......at this level
I just want to see a fearless Norwich City who take the game to Brighton and do not wait for them to come at us, whilst I understand this clean sheet thing, with the players we have I want to see us out score teams for the three points, not a lot to ask.......at this level
Din
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Pinto still out injured, meaning Martin at right back, which I felt really hindered up last week. Finally though Pritchard is starting ahead of Brady, despite the fact he played 120 minutes in the week.
Not got a good feeling about this game tbh.
Not got a good feeling about this game tbh.
Gaffer
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4-0 down with 20 minutes left. It's all going a bit Neil Adams. Bring back Hughton?
Din
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Utterly disgraceful. Need a few changes for the next game. McGovern, Martin, Bennett, Tettey and Murphy all need to be removed from the side to be honest.
Gaffer
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It's been obvious for a while that Murphy needs a rest and obvious for ages that Martin isn't up to it. So why is AN so slow to see these things? We don't stand a chance of promotion with him as manager. Do we really need to sink down into mid table before the board sees that? FFS we've just been hammered 5-0 by HUGHTON!
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GJP
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AN stopped taking us forward about a year ago.
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Sussex by the sea
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Worst thing Norwich done was sack Chris hughton. Maybe the club need to reinvest their hard earned premier league money on better players than keep blaming their managers.
Keckers
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Been saying for a long time that AN is not the manager for us. In my view he took over NAs squad that was built well and knew their jobs and gave them the kick up the arse they needed (that NA didn't do) and that carried him to promotion. Since that time I can hardly remember one performance that was complete. Maybe I am missing a few decent games but the body of work is very much indicative of having someone in charge who lacks basic leadership and tactical awareness. We look unfit, clueless, tactically inept and completely uninterested. We are carrying players on the squad who should have left ages ago (RM, SB, SN) and not playing others who could offer something useful (YM, KL). We have shipped out the youngsters rather than give them a chance to shine. we have had three awful transfer windows under AN. He has coached the good out of some of our players (TK and Nathan when he was here) and persists with poor selections along with constant tinkering. His leadership today post game was sorely lacking and he remains buoyed by a legion of apologists in the media and ex-players who all seem to believe he is wonderful despite the evidence on show. Our results to date have been the result of individuals producing despite poor team play. We have not kept a clean sheet for 11 league games. Our goal difference is only better (marginally) than three other teams in the top 12 (and don't forgrt that GD is often a great indicator early on of who will be dominant). The way he calls out the players and blames them rather than shoulder it himself is disgraceful. Yes, the players do go on the pitch but he picks them, tells them what to do, trains them on these tactics (?) and then is supposed to make adjustments if it doesn't work. Yet it never seems to be his fault. they don't look fit enough. Not his fault apparently. After the loss he allows them to have their say? Why isn't he busting their heads and making sweeping changes in personnel and tactics? He looks, to me, like the proverbial violinist watching the Titanic sink with him on board and the only reason he won't leave is because he will give up his termination payment.
The experiment has failed. Please move on City and this time, let's not go for the cheap option.
The experiment has failed. Please move on City and this time, let's not go for the cheap option.
splutcho
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That was as bad as I think I've ever seen from us. I am not looking forward to work on Monday. Absolutely fuming, I just feel for the fans that travelled. Only ten minutes on the train for me.
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Bill and ben
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"In my view he took over NAs squad that was built well and knew their jobs and gave them the kick up the arse they needed (that NA didn't do) and that carried him to promotion"
i would agree with that. AN was the right man at the right time but his time is done. At least we didn't take the lead and throw it away again I guess....
i would agree with that. AN was the right man at the right time but his time is done. At least we didn't take the lead and throw it away again I guess....
Fenway Frank
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That went well !!
First, Wes was our best player by some way although Jerome and Dorrans did ok, the rest nothing. We have too many players that are too easily pushed off the ball, even Tettey couldn't deal with their players.
This may seem strange but Brighton weren't anything special, they just have a team full of players suited to this division, we don't. Brighton didn't have to work for any of the goals, we gave every single one to them which is the biggest worry.
We can have plenty of possession without looking the slightest bit like scoring. Personally I think we need to change formation, I would say 442 but realistically it would need to be 4411 to get Wes into his best position.
The players did the right thing by coming over at the end, they need to take some responsibility for this and however much stick they got at the end the needed to come over. Klose was particularly apologetic.
We need changes for the next game, both players and formation, I believe Tettey is suspended now ? A good thing really as he hasn't played well recently, we don't half miss Howson.
Amazingly I still had a good day, as a warning to you all, my next one will probably be Huddersfield ?
First, Wes was our best player by some way although Jerome and Dorrans did ok, the rest nothing. We have too many players that are too easily pushed off the ball, even Tettey couldn't deal with their players.
This may seem strange but Brighton weren't anything special, they just have a team full of players suited to this division, we don't. Brighton didn't have to work for any of the goals, we gave every single one to them which is the biggest worry.
We can have plenty of possession without looking the slightest bit like scoring. Personally I think we need to change formation, I would say 442 but realistically it would need to be 4411 to get Wes into his best position.
The players did the right thing by coming over at the end, they need to take some responsibility for this and however much stick they got at the end the needed to come over. Klose was particularly apologetic.
We need changes for the next game, both players and formation, I believe Tettey is suspended now ? A good thing really as he hasn't played well recently, we don't half miss Howson.
Amazingly I still had a good day, as a warning to you all, my next one will probably be Huddersfield ?
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SussexYellow
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Yep a hard one to take for those of us that live down here.
That said Brighton are a pretty reasonable crowd of supporters. I ended up sitting in the home seats yesterday and they have the very decent tradition of turning to applaud the away support when the number of away supporters attending is announced as part of the overall attendance. Something a few clubs could learn from.
There were also comments yesterday that this was as full as they have seen the away section - so credit to those that travelled and I too feel for you. Just hope I do not have an equally miserable journey if we capitulate against Leeds next week, it was bad enough after Preston.
Fenway Frank
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2800 away fans yesterday, and I agree the Brighton fans are a decent bunch. Third time I've been there and I've been to three different grounds ?
Gaffer
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I think the way he handles the media is fine as he doesn't generally pick out individual players for criticism and does accept responsibility for defeats. But I agree with all the other things you've said. He's failed in the transfer window, failed in team selection and tactics and failed to get the best out of the squad.
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