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[Yellowyorkie]

We never hear the full story and nor should we. Adams has to be free to decide who he wants in the team whether it's ability or attitude hes judging by. At least wait a few games before you decide we're all going to hell in a handcart.

 

[yellowarmy]

Not very profesional of pilks and shows an insight into the lads character

 

[ZLF]

Malky anyone

The job was malkys but only on the condition he took adams as part of his back room staff.

Clearly this has been bubbling for a while,  not just with pilks but several "outcasts".      Thsi must be a hangover from last season (possibly fo CH doing) but as some one else pointed out no one comes out of this well,  pilks for going public (but hard to blame him bearing in mind many fans already think he is a bit of sick note) and adams for being revealed as economic with the truth,  undermining so many other "statements".

Clearly the squad has some divisions - that should have been sorted over the summer or positions made clear to avoid this festering.

Going to be interesting until Sept.

 

[Branston Pickle]

I don't think one rogue twitter comment can constitute 'some divisions'. Pilks is a decent player but seems to have dined out on that Man U game/goal for a long time - I've been a big fan, but he was pretty poor most of last season - that is when he wasn't injured - and just wasn't worth a place in the side. Adams, for his part, is fully entitled to play who the hell he likes while he is boss. And as for whoever said that Lambert didn't freeze guys out, that has to go down as one of the bigger re-writes of our recent history,as he did it plenty.

 

[Keckers]

Whatever we think of either party here, we are not in possession of all of the facts.

In any line of work, the professional thing to do is to speak privately first and foremost.

It's unprofessional and has further polarised our already fractured fanbase.

It does nothing more than destabilise our already precarious confidence.

Is Leroy going to see that and think I want to stay here? Hooper? Etc..

We need the whole team to be pulling in the same direction.

If Adams is at fault then the club needs to deal with it. Pilks needs to grow up.

By the way, hello!!

 

[Canaryboy]

Whatever we think of either party here, we are not in possession of all of the facts.

In any line of work, the professional thing to do is to speak privately first and foremost.

It's unprofessional and has further polarised our already fractured fanbase.

It does nothing more than destabilise our already precarious confidence.

Is Leroy going to see that and think I want to stay here? Hooper? Etc..

We need the whole team to be pulling in the same direction.

If Adams is at fault then the club needs to deal with it. Pilks needs to grow up.

By the way, hello!!

Welcome to the forum keckers, stick around - looks like you are using our mobile site, we also have a beautiful full version of our site if you have a laptop / tablet / desktop (or if you press the 'full version' button on the mobile interface) 

I agree that the timing isn't great, but I'm not sure I can say that Pilks has done anything wrong here. Can a manager gain the respect of his players if he is lying about them, doesn't that not show a lack of integrity and if it damages Pilks career prospects isn't it borderline slanderous? Adams has done this before with Pilks, making out that an injury prone player is even more injury prone than the reality, isn't that damaging to both the player and the club?

If this is true, is it Pilks being unprofessional, or Adams being unprofessional, or is it both of them? That's the million dollar question really. 

 

[skijumptoes]

Adams has lied to the supporters, and in the same breath publicly offended a player. If this was sorted out behind closed doors would we have received an apology, or the player himself? No!

I think Wes had the club summed up in January if this carries on.

 

[yellowarmy]

Adams has lied to the supporters, and in the same breath publicly offended a player. If this was sorted out behind closed doors would we have received an apology, or the player himself? No!

I think Wes had the club summed up in January if this carries on.

But does that justify pilks decision to air his dirty washing in public?

 

[Canaryboy]

This does make you wonder... does this mean that RVW wasn't injured either, before our trip to Italy?  :unsure:

 

[Highland Canary]

Pilkington is a player who whether through injuries or attitude as flattered to deceive during his period with us. On his day he is one of our best players. One would have hoped that Adams would have recognised Pilkington's strengths - which clearly Hughton didn't - and tried to maximise them. I really hope that we're not seeing some of Roeder's attitudes again.

 

[kirku]

I'm almost certainly reading too much into this, but Fer posted a pretty cryptic tweet last night. It was a picture of some graffiti that said, 'Real eyes realise real lies' accompanied by a ' '. Pilkington's 'Adams was lying' tweet was only a few hours prior.

 

[Willmeister]

If he wasn't used because Pilks doesn't want to be here it will be best for all parties to move him on ASAP. If he does want to be here he needs to be playing.

 

[Gorlestongirl]

Reading the quote again, Adams actually says that we have one or two niggles AND Anthony Pilkington didn't train on Friday. He doesn't say that AP was one of the niggles. AP on his part doesn't say he did train on Friday, but doesn't want anyone to leap to the conclusion that he is injured. It's remarkable how people need to jump to conclusions about disharmony and lying, to explain their underlying anxieties about the Club. The team played poorly yesterday. The squad is a strong one ATM for the division we are in. The transfer window period is an anxious one for clubs with good and ambitious players. Let's wait and see what transpires, and just chill.

 

[splutcho]

Welcome Gorlestongirl.

I think you might be splitting hairs with your analogy there though, Pilks clearly tweeted what he did in response to Adams saying he was unavailable.

The thing that is worrying me, is now I do not trust Adams assessment on things. For example, does Bassong's attitude "stink" or is one of our best CB's being frozen out unfairly? Did everyone start with a clean slate? Did he really want to keep RVW?

 

[splutcho]

Anthony Pilkington ‏@Pilkington_11  57s
Just to clear things up never called anybody a liar! Just stated to @paddyjdavitt that what HE tweeted was wrong!

 

[Gorlestongirl]

With respect, Splutchko, I don't believe I am splitting hairs. My own view is that AP is wanting a move, that he, or his agent, was concerned to see the ambiguous quote from Adams, and wanted to clarify that he is not injured, (at the moment) so that any interested clubs are not put off. If I were Paddy Davitt, I would have asked AP via twitter if he trained on Friday. That would have made it clearer, and we could have all discussed why he didn't or did and still wasn't in the squad.

 

[Beauseant]

This is possibly the most worrying thing about a very worrying weekend. Its really stupid to lie about a player who is known to be active on public media.

 

[Andy]

I really don't know what to make of this Pilks twitter stuff but here's a hypothetical question for you. You are City manager and you leave one of your players out of the squad because

a) he is out of form and playing badly

b he has a poor attitude in training

c) he doesn't fit into the way you want to set the team up

When asked by a journo why he didn't play, would you say

a) because he's sh*te

b because he has a sh*te attitude

c) because he can't play the way that I want him to

d) he's picked up a bit of a niggling injury

I've no idea what has happened in this case but surely it is common practice for managers to tell little porkies, often to protect the players in question.

 

[Robert Brompton]

I really don't know what to make of this Pilks twitter stuff but here's a hypothetical question for you. You are City manager and you leave one of your players out of the squad because

a) he is out of form and playing badly

b he has a poor attitude in training

c) he doesn't fit into the way you want to set the team up

When asked by a journo why he didn't play, would you say

a) because he's sh*te

b because he has a sh*te attitude

c) because he can't play the way that I want him to

d) he's picked up a bit of a niggling injury

I've no idea what has happened in this case but surely it is common practice for managers to tell little porkies, often to protect the players in question.

Agree Andy. This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. 

 

[Devoured1]

If it's true that AP didn't train on Friday then there must be a reason for it, perhaps he had the niggling injury Friday, felt ok to play Sunday but NA didnt want to risk him....sounds logical to me.