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RvW - Stay or go?

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The Great Mass Debater

The Great Mass Debater

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So we all know Ricky has a move to St Etienne to ponder. As Norwich City fans, perhaps we should help him make up his mind. What would you rather he did? Stay or go?

Me personally, I would love him to stay and put right what went wrong last season and show us what he can do. So for me STAY. But what do you think?
 
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morty

morty

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Too many variables for me to give you a straight answer lol.

A lot for me would depend on if Hooper is going.

Take Hooper and Ricky out of the equation and suddenly our striking options look a bit thin, all it would take is an injury to Lafferty or Grabban and we're in the brown stuff.

So yes, I am happy for Ricky to go as long as we keep Hooper. And while we're on the subject, I don't think Ricky would be going anywhere unless he himself had expressed a preference to do so....
 
morty

morty

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Looks like you're too late anyway....

http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/ricky_van_wolfswinkel_s_loan_move_to_saint_etienne_set_to_be_confirmed_1_3711288?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
 
BarclayBoy88

BarclayBoy88

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If it was his choice to go and wanted a loan move then I wouldn't want him around if it fell through. I like Ricky and think he has a lot more to offer than he showed last year, but it speaks volumes when a player doesn't want to stay and fight for their spot.
 
The Great Mass Debater

The Great Mass Debater

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He wouldnt have gone for a medical if he wasnt likely to go. He probably would just have said 'No I want to stay' and that would be that. It would probably be better for his career if he went, and with European football, warmer climate and a fresh start I can understand. If it were me though, and I considered myself one of Europe's top strikers, what happened last season would be a stain on my reputation and conscience. I would want to thoroughly exorcise my demons. You can argue whether he feels he needs to prove anything to Norwich (after all Norwich is not the oracle of football) and in the long run he probably wouldnt care what the fans thought after he left. But the whole of English football has written him off. I wouldnt want that to follow me round and Id want to prove myself in this country.

Everybody is different though. Sounds are that he would have been happy to stay, but its clearly not a burning desire. He may have wanted to stay and do the decent thing, but the club havent exactly come out with a declaration of love regarding him. Giving away his number 9 shirt doesnt say 'you're the main man at this club Ricky, we still believe in you'. It says, 'we're looking at other options'.

I didnt want RvW to be a failure, I wanted the boy to come good and prove himself. If he goes, and on a permanent he will leave as two things. The biggest transfer flop in the clubs history, and quite possibly the crappest striker we've ever had. I didnt want that to happen to him, but it seems like its going to
 
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Gaffer

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People seem to be judging him too much by his 'nice' tweets. That's naive. He cleverly uses twitter to promote himself (good on him for that). The truth is he was embarrassingly bad last season and his presence would remind everyone of the disaster that was last season. Grabban and Lafferty are a really exciting prospect and Hooper is good back up who may still force his way into the first team. In the event of injuries we could delve into the loan market. Really, I'm just thinking thank god RvW is leaving.
 
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JF76

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Poor player that showed no signs of the quality that his reputation came with. We are looking to get back to a level that has proven to be a step too far for him. Not good enough, put it down to experience and move on.
 
Yellow Fever

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I like RvW and would be happy if he stays, but I think when asked by Adams if he wanted to stay he replied that he would like a new start somewhere else but would stay at City if no offer came in that the Board was willing to accept. One has, and he will go, IMO.
 
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bloodwagon

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I think he was pushed. Crazy idea, sending him out on loan with a contract to sell. Adams need shooting, bloody man.

I was for Adams before this now im on the fence with him.

Ricky would do the job here this season (if we had kept him) im sure, But we will never know now will we :(

What a waste.

Morty im on that ledge again
 
Agent Dale Cooper

Agent Dale Cooper

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If the figures are correct then recouping nearly £5m for him next summer would be decent business. One would imagine they'll pay us a loan fee for this season, as well as paying his wages, so it's a pretty good deal all round. Much as I wanted him to be a success, I'm really not sure he's cut out for the Championship. Hooper, on the other hand, has scored bucketloads at this level with an inferior team and knows that he needs a good season to resurrect his career.
 
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gerryinromania

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On the last 2 postings I am in agent dale coopers camp on this rather than in bloodwagons
 
Beauseant

Beauseant

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I think this is a very clever deal. St Etienne will have to stump up an initial fee for the loan (standard practice) plus another significant amount if they sign him at the end. In the meantime they are paying his full wages, so we offload what would, at best, have been a squad player, so freeing up funds, Ricky gets a chance to shine and everyone's happy.

I know Ricky comes across as a nice lad, and I'm sure he is, but do people really believe that someone who proved so lightweight in the Prem would do better in the much more physical Championship?
 
Chris Brown

Chris Brown

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Really wanted him to stay. Just to be 'given a go', but obviously not going to happen now, a tad disappointed, but I feel we're more strong up top this season than we were of last. 
 
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