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Norwich City vs Middlesbrough (Home) Tuesday 24th October.

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ManofNorfolk1805

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Morty, how about Plan A minus? The minus part of it being a reduction in the number of passes required to cross the halfway line? Another long term personal beef - a free kick ten yards either side of the halfway line should NOT be passed backwards - the default option must be forwards. The sooner the FA/FIFA/EUFA revert to the old rule that a goal kick must go outside the penalty area the better - playing 3+ passes across the six yard line really (or should that be "rarely" ) gets the crowd on its feet.
 
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Morty, All very impressive but it is NOT working. You do not score goals without getting it forward. The theory may be fine but the execution is awful. Obviously, Michael Carrick at Middlesbrough and his players have not been overwhelmed by these complexities - Boro's second goal on Tuesday - Route One from the goalkeeper and NCFC could not cope with it. Everyone has obviously forgotten about Charles Hughes and the research about the number of passes leading to goals.
 
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I didn't say it was working, but just lumping it forward like we are playing football in the 1970's isn't the answer either. Charles Hughes a coach from 80 years ago? :D
 
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Not quite - as late as 1993 he was at the FA, The optimum number of passes leading to goals was 5 or less, the same numbers which might now get the ball out of our own penalty area (if we are lucky and competent enough to do it without giving the ball away in the process.) That currently is a matter for debate.
 
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Charlie Hughes and his POMOs ... positions of maximum opportunity. When Long hoofed the ball upfield a few times against Leeds their defence couldn't cope with it. Not the preferred option but sometimes a bit of old-fashioned football can do the trick.
 
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Gunvald Larsson said:
Charlie Hughes and his POMOs ... positions of maximum opportunity. When Long hoofed the ball upfield a few times against Leeds their defence couldn't cope with it. Not the preferred option but sometimes a bit of old-fashioned football can do the trick.
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Nothing wrong with mixing things up, if it plays to a strength. But hoofing it long because you can't think of anything better to do really isn't the answer. It makes me laugh that there are folk behind the goal who shout at the keeper / defence to just kick it long, and when they do, it just comes straight back...
 
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Gunvald Larsson said:
Charlie Hughes and his POMOs ... positions of maximum opportunity. When Long hoofed the ball upfield a few times against Leeds their defence couldn't cope with it. Not the preferred option but sometimes a bit of old-fashioned football can do the trick.
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morty said:
Nothing wrong with mixing things up, if it plays to a strength. But hoofing it long because you can't think of anything better to do really isn't the answer. It makes me laugh that there are folk behind the goal who shout at the keeper / defence to just kick it long, and when they do, it just comes straight back...
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The paying customers are probably totally fed up with a) 5 passes to get out of the penalty area b) 8 to get the halfway line and c)three more to pass it back to the goalkeeper unless of course d) no-one has contrived to lose possession 30 yards from our own goal. The reason it comes straight back is that neither Idah nor Hwang is anywhere near strong enough nor technically gifted enough to hold it up. Someone should introduce mental arithmetic classes - a pass backwards = minus 10/15/20/30 yards, that puts you into negative territory, and you have to make that up before you are actually going forward. into plus territory.
 
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So we don't have the players to make punting the ball upfield work.

We got there in the end. ;)
 
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NCFC haven't got the players to play like Barcelona at their best either (although the manager and several of them appear to think they can) so where does that leave you? League One?
 
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