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Norwich City vs Huddersfield town (Home) Tuesday 16th August.

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morty

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Insert "games come thick and fast in this league" cliché here.

The obvious issue is left back, seeing as we now don't have any. Rather than see us try and wheel out a barely fit Byram, I think we should go 3-5-2, which would also give Pukki something more to play off, and maybe the opposition something different to think about. I am told that Huddersfield really aren't very good, so this is definitely somewhere we should be looking for our first win.
 
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DS: “Lungi unfortunately had a scan yesterday and has a stress fracture in his foot, putting him out for a number of weeks.”

DS confirms Byram trained on Sun. But Tues might be 'too early'. Also looking in the market. It is unprecedented to lose three in same position all out a number of weeks.

DS: “Teemu’s got a bruised foot. He’s having an x-ray this morning and he played the rest of the game, so we’re hopeful he’ll be okay.” DS reveals Pukki needs an precautionary x-ray on his foot this morning. Did it in taking early shot on Sat but the fact he played on for DS means expects him to be fit for Tues.

DS: “We cannot recall Bali Mumba until January.”

Jonathan Tomkinson and Tony Springett will play today for the U23s against Leeds. Smith wants them to get minutes.

DS: “We did the debrief yesterday and showed them the mistakes. The size of the chances we are creating are very good. We will win games.”

DS: “We’ve got new players in the team. Nacho (Nunez),Sara, Hayden and AJ (Ramsey). It’s not about a hangover from last season.”

Sinani to face his former side? DS: “Danel is in our thoughts. He knows what is required.”

DS tells me they've been looking in the market at left backs for past 2 weeks. But won't happen before #huddersfield. No Mumba recall option.

DS: “I spoke to a Cardiff player I know well and he said for the first 30 minutes we couldn’t get near you. We need to take our chances.”
 
morty

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So there we go, 3-5-2, or shoehorn someone like Kenny in at left back!
 
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If Uddersfield really aren't very good, maybe they'll sit back and defend.
We always / never do well against a low block.
 
morty

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If Uddersfield really aren't very good, maybe they'll sit back and defend.
We always / never do well against a low block.
Of course they will, we are a big scalp in this league. And just as we did in previous seasons, we need to find a way to cut through it.
 
Thomas the Tank Engine

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I would play Ben Gibson at left back or Sam Bryam.
 
Thomas the Tank Engine

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Sorry Thomas, I would be reluctant to play Gibson at all, and I doubt Byram is fit enough yet.
To be fair, Gibson has played left back at times during his career..................
 
Gunvald Larsson

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An enforced changed of personnel and we get what, to me, appeared like a huge step up in creativity and threat. Playing Sarge in his proper position paid off with Sinani and he giving the opposition a tough time. Having Kenny away from the attack gave Dowell space to show some quality and he was well supported by Cantwell, Nunez and Gibbs. Having no Rashica cocking things up was also a bonus. Some of our transition play was still oh so predictable at times but it made a change to see something different in general. Onel make lack that final quality pass but he does make the defenders panic. Shame that our defenders seem to panic as well. I am pleased Sarge showed his worth as a front man and to be honest Pukki wasn't missed. Hugill's physicality can be an asset when we are getting bullied but Sarge is a better player, as is Sinani. When Idah gets back we will have a decent strike force at this level. Am still undecided about Smith, how he responds to this win will be interesting, Will he go back to his usual favourites in their predictable positions, or will he give this team a second go. I hope it's the latter.
 
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Interesting game, for a few reasons. I will say though, as a caveat, Huddersfield were shite. Honestly, absolute bobbins. But you can only play what is in front of you, so we did. A fair few things to unpack, loved the sarge up front, I like the guy, he offers more than Pukki, at this level at least. Hugil is dogshit, I won't be moved on this opinion. Loved Nunez, thought Dowell had a decent game, Sinani was effective, absolutely loved this new lad Cantwell, applied himself well. We have options, which is good. Subs didn't really effect the game though, as much as we all love Onel, he didn't really affect the game enough, but to be fair, played his part.

We looked nervy in the end but got the win.
 
Din

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Well that was better. Still not entirely convinced by any means but this is at least a platform to build off.

Had a bet with my mate when the lineup was announced that if Sargent scores I would buy a third kit with his name on, and then within 5 minutes he heads the ball home as if he’s prime Didier Drogba :oops: serves me right I guess haha. It was much better from him overall, offered more in the 60 or so minutes he was on than Pukki has in the whole of the previous 3 games. I’d love to see him kick on from here. I mean I still think he’s a donkey but even donkey’s have their uses I guess.

Sinani rightfully man of the match, I think he’s definitely got potential to become a key player for us. I liked him a lot in that 3 behind the striker with Dowell and Cantwell, I thought they moved around each other nicely and the attack actually flowed which it hasn’t really done in the first 3 games. Dowell is another player I can see having a big season in him. Nunez continues too ooze class. Seems to burn out by the hour mark or so which is probably him still mainly acclimatising to English football, but there were times in the first half where he was running rings around the Huddersfield midfield. I also thought for a first league start Gibbs did brilliantly, such a tidy player. Like Nunez seemed to tire in the second half, made a couple of errors, but all in all I liked him a lot. I thought Kenny was ok as a left back, I mean he wasn’t really tested but he dealt with most things pretty well. I do wonder if when Byram is back Deano will decide that between him and McLean we have adequate cover in that position until one of them actually comes back. The only player who I wasn’t massively impressed with was Hanley, who I didn’t think had a terrible game by any means but continues to look unconvincing as a left sided centre back. What he was doing as well for the Huddersfield goal as well I don’t know, just backed off and backed off the guy and then gets easily skinned. I know I’ve said it before but I really would like to see us sign a left footed centre back, neither Hanley or Gibson (who actually is left footed) are impressing at all next to Omobamidele. Hernandez I thought added some urgency off the bench which definitely helped, but man he pissed around with the ball when he gets into the final third. He’ll do something really good initially to beat his man and then instead of make a pass he’s just shimmy back and fourth about 6 times and then by the time he’s done all the passes he had on are gone. I do think he has his uses but in all honesty once Rowe/Springett are fit I’d rather see them given opportunities off the bench than Onel, as lovable a guy as he is.

It certainly wasn’t a complete performance by any means. I think up until Huddersfield went down to 10 men we were looking good but we really should’ve killed them off. The fact is there was a chance right at the end where if their player gets a simple 10 yard pass right then Rhodes probably scores the equaliser, fortunately though he messed it up and we saw out the win. There seemed to be a huge hole in our midfield, partly caused by the fact obviously that with Sorenson and Hayden out we’re missing the only 2 actual ‘defensive’ midfielders I’d say we had, but it was worrying how easily a 10 man Huddersfield team were cutting through us towards the end, against better teams we’ll get punished if we don’t address that.

I have to say as well I think part of that was down to us making 5 subs, I think we really killed the tempo of the game with the constant changes. I kind of think even though we have the option to make 5 doesn’t nessecarily mean we should? Particularly when we’re throwing on players like Sara or Ramsey who are new signings and clearly aren’t fully up to speed. I know he had half an eye probably on Millwall on Friday but I did think Sargent was taken off for Hugill way too early. I also never really know what our midfield shape is when we start making changes and to be honest I don’t feel like our midfielders do either. They all just seem to be thrown on with no-one really having a set role. I know we’re lacking more defensive substitutions because of the injuries we have but yeah I don’t really see the logic in throwing on attacking midfielders just for the sake of it.

All in all though yeah, good to get that first win. I think Millwall on Friday will be the toughest test we’ve had so far so will be interesting to see how we stand up to that. Critical that we build off this win, and if we can make it 6 points from 6 I think everyone generally will feel much more positive about us.
 
Thomas the Tank Engine

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Interesting game, for a few reasons. I will say though, as a caveat, Huddersfield were shite. Honestly, absolute bobbins. But you can only play what is in front of you, so we did. A fair few things to unpack, loved the sarge up front, I like the guy, he offers more than Pukki, at this level at least. Hugil is dogshit, I won't be moved on this opinion. Loved Nunez, thought Dowell had a decent game, Sinani was effective, absolutely loved this new lad Cantwell, applied himself well. We have options, which is good. Subs didn't really effect the game though, as much as we all love Onel, he didn't really affect the game enough, but to be fair, played his part.

We looked nervy in the end but got the win.
Agree with most of that, but Hernandez definitely changed the game imo. Huuggill is a non league player imo. Cantwel is one of our best players imo. Smith should still be sacked ASAP though imo.
 
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Thought Sarge and Sinani worked well together. Aarons superb. How did we only pay 3 million for Nunez? Hanley a liability right now. Managed quite well without Pukki and Rashica. The Sarge is a real pain in the arse for defenders, and Onel just terrorises defenders, they don't know what he will do, don't think he knows either. More of the same please, don't change the team because of names and history
 
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