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Norwich v Blackpool (Away) 27th September 2014

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kirku

kirku

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He seemed to fit Hughton's brief of trying hard, running around a lot and putting himself about a bit. In that respect, he did well.

In fairness, my initial comment was more poking fun at his scoring record rather than his all round play.
 
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Yellow Fever

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It's not judging like with like.Last seasons' strikers were playing in the PL in a more defensive approach. In our current approach in the Championship, they would do much better. Similarly, our present strikers would find it much harder in the PL, as Hooper and Jerome did last year. 
 
Din

Din

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It's not down to luck IMO, but good tactics. Rather than running around like headless chickens we're wearing the opposition down and picking them off.
I don't know if you watched the game today, but I did, and I genuinly don't think our tactics today were to wear the opposition down and then attack them in the later stages of the game. We started the second half the same as the first, and even once we got level I don't think we really took the initiative until we got the second goal. If it wasn't for two, quite frankly lucky goals, we could easily be talking about how we shouldn't be losing to teams at the bottom of the league. 

You also make it sound like theres no middle ground, tactics wise, between running around like headless chickens, and waiting until later on in the game to overrun the opposition. Against the likes of Watford, Blackburn and Ipswich, we played some brilliant football, and created numerous chances throughout the whole game. Yes you could argue that a couple of them were home games, but it shows that we are capable of doing it. Yet in the last 4 games, we have been poor in the first half, and saved ourselves in the second, even against Birmingham at home. I find it very hard to believe, that in a home game against Birmingham, a struggling team, Neil Adams would send his team out, and tell them to sit back for most of the game and try and get the goals later on.

I'm coming across as negative here, witch I don't want to do. Because the fact is I'm very happy with how we are at the moment. Top of the league and just won 3-1 away from home. But the fact is we can't continue to play as poorly as we are doing in the first half, because it will end up costing us.

And also, whilst people are talking about Elmander, I thought some of the criticism he got was very harsh, and he seemed to be scapegoated a lot during last season. He was very good at holding up the ball, and worked his socks off. Yes he was useless at finding the back of the net, but he wasn't the only one in last seasons team.
 
morty

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Just home, that was a long day!

However, my first away win in 3 years, so worth every minute :D
 
Yellow Fever

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IMO, Grabban was certainly our liveliest forward yesterday. I've just watched the 10 minutes of highlights on The Football League Show and it looks to me that his 'miss' in front of goal was in fact an attempted cross to Jerome who was in a much better position, but just a bit late to react. I don't care for the 4-4-2 because it forces Wes to play wide and restricts movement up front. The same four players could play in the 4-2-3-1 with Jerome up top, Grabban and Redmond 'wide-ish' and Wes in the hole. 

It was good to see Adams getting credit from Steve Claridge for the way he handled the transfer window and the squad he has assembled in doing so. There is still room for improvement, which is a good thing when we're top of the league. I thought the CB partnership is improving and Hooiveld is now settling in well. We still have Hooper, Howson and Odjidja-Ofoe to come and Josh Murphy is maturing into an excellent player as shown by his dribbling ability and superb finish yesterday. Plenty of room for optimism.
 
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Din

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To be fair, against Cardiff Jerome came on and played wide left in the 4-2-3-1, and he scored a goal and was arguably our best player. So he could easily play there, but obviously Grabban would be the preference out of the two to play wide. 

I think that the 4-4-2 could work, but I think that it can't as long as Wes is in the team. If we had a natural left winger to play there, such as Josh Murphy if he was fitter, then I think that could definitely work. The problem is that Wes is constantly coming inside, meaning we have no option down the left wing, therefore we have less balls going into the box. I personally think that Elliott Bennett could easily play on the left. Yes he would be constantly coming inside, but he does have very good delivery, and I think considering that Murphy isn't quite ready to start regularly, and Wes is useless out on the wing, I think he's our best option to play there.

I would obviously much prefer us to play 4-2-3-1, but considering the form that Jerome and Grabban are in it seems wrong to drop them, or move them out of their preferred position.
 
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Din

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Well, it's another 3 points on the road, so can't really complain, despite the fact that for the majority of the game we were well below par, yet again. Fair play to Blackpool though, who for a good hour/70 minutes ran us close, and you could even say looked good for a point. Neil Adams said before the game that their results weren't perhaps particularly reflective of how they actually perform in games, and that was evident here. It's also slightly surprising that perhaps they hadn't scored in about a month before this game, as they do have some decent attacking players, and that front 3 of Delfouneso, Miller, and Zoko did cause us a few problems. Like the Birmingham and Cardiff game, we were poor in the first half. The only real clear cut chance we had was when Hoolahan sent Grabban clear on goal towards the end of the half, and he smashed it well wide. It's unclear whether he was actually shooting, or whether he was trying to square the ball to Jerome, but however you look at it it was a waste. When we conceded I really feared the worst. We were carved wide open, and god knows where our central defenders were. But a huge stroke of luck got us back into the game, through an own goal by Donervan Daniels. We then though didn't really take the initiative until we took the lead 10 minutes from time. Again, there was a huge element of luck about it, as Lewis Grabbans shot looked to be relatively weak before taking a big deflection off of Daniels once again, and looping just out of the reach of Lewis in goal. Murphy's goal was the only real one of quality we scored in the whole game, and it showed what an excellent prospect he is. But all in all, despite another uninspiring performance, it's another great 3 points, that puts us top of the table. No complaints about that.

Our Top 5 Players:

1. Nathan Redmond (8/10)

2. Cameron Jerome (7/10)

3. Michael Turner (7/10)

4. Jos Hooiveld (7/10)

5. Bradley Johnson (7/10)

Other Players:

6. John Ruddy (7/10)

7. Alexander Tettey (6/10)

8. Josh Murphy (6/10)

9. Russell Martin (6/10)

10. Martin Olsson (6/10)

11. Lewis Grabban (5/10)

12. Wes Hoolahan (5/10)

Nathan Redmond was absolutely superb for the second week in a row. Had his critics early on in the season after a slow start, but he's certainly showing what a great player he is now. His delivery is definitely improving, as shown when he swung in the corner that lead to our first goal. Whilst he was kept relatively quiet in the first half by a solid Blackpool defence, he came to life in the second half and absolutely destroyed the Blackpool left back. He looks so much more threatening on the right hand side, and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before he scores. Cameron Jerome was excellent again. £1.5m is looking better and better every week. Whilst he didn't really have a clear cut opportunity in this game (with the possible exception of when Redmond's shot deflected into his path, and he couldn't adjust his feet quick enough),but he worked his socks off as usual, and got an assist for Josh Murphy's goal. He's strong and powerful, and posed a real threat to the Blackpool back line. Whilst Michael Turner had a couple of dodgy moments, like his back pass to Ruddy that went out for a corner, and when he failed to clear a header which nearly lead to Miller putting Blackpool back in front, but on the whole he had another solid game. Hooiveld was much improved on last weeks performance against Birmingham. He was good with the ball at his feet, and although he has a distinct lack of pace, on a couple of occasions he made an excellent challenge, for example, when Miller looked as if he was about to put Blackpool 2-1 up, and he slid in to deny him at the last minute. He looks as if his fitness is gradually getting better, and as his fitness improves, he looks as if his overall play is improving. Bradley Johnson had a slightly inconsistant game. Some of his short passing was truly atrocious, but his long passing was often very good, and like most of our team, he picked up significantly in the second half. He made a lot of key interceptions in midfield, and overall had a decent game. John Ruddy didn't have an awful lot to do. Made a good save from Miller before Delfouneso pounced to convert the re-bound. Apart from that he didn't really have anything to do, but everything he did have to do he did well. I thought Alex Tettey was slightly below par compared to how we've seen him in recent weeks. He was pretty calm on the ball, and intercepted a number of passes, but apart from that didn't really do anything. Josh Murphy had another telling impact off the bench. After coming on and changing the game against Birmingham last week, he didn't really threaten the Blackpool defence as much as he did the previous week. However, it was his superbly taken goal that effectively killed the game off for us, and he's certainly maturing into an excellent player. Russell Martin had an ok game. That said though he did struggle against Zoko at times. But made some good challenges, and had a relatively easy second half. Martin Olsson was a bit anonymous throughout the game. Mainly due to the fact that Hoolahan came inside to collect the ball, meaning that we weren't using the left hand side at all, hence why we didn't really see him going forward. But he was comfortable defensively against Nile Ranger. Despite scoring what turned out to be the winning goal, Lewis Grabban was very poor. He would often come far too deep to try and collect the ball, meaning that he wasn't in the box when we got the opportunity to swing it in. He lost possession on several occasions, and missed a great chance at 0-0 to put us in front just before half time. Tbh if I was manager I would've taken him off much earlier, and would've dropped him against Charlton, but after creating something out of nothing, and winning us the game, he proved why he kept his place in the team, and why he deserves to be in the starting team for Tuesday. For the second week running Wes Hoolahan was our worst player. Showed a couple of glimpses of the Hoolahan we know he can be, for example when he put Grabban through on goal, but on the whole he was very poor. He's completely wasted playing on the wing, and if we're not going to play him through the middle, then he shouldn't be playing at all.

As I said before, we can't continue to start games so slowly. Against Brentford it was obvious that we deployed the tactic of soaking up the pressure and then picking them off at the end, however against Birmingham, and yesterday, it was clear that we weren't doing that, and that we were just slow off the mark. If we continue to do this then we will end up being 3-0 down to someone at half time and we won't be able to get it back. Charlton on Tuesday will be another difficult game. They're undefeated so far in the league, and they will be very difficult to break down, especially if we play how we did yesterday. We might see a bit of squad rotation for this one, and at the very least I expect to see Hoolahan drop out. That game will undoubtedly be more difficult than this one.

But anyway, I think I've come across as quite negative in this, which I'm really not. I'm over the moon with our start to the season, and that we've managed to win 3-1 away from home, and are therefore top of the league. So far, so good. 
 
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