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Norwich City vs Middlesbrough (Away) Saturday 26th April.

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morty

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Will be interesting to see how we approach this, the temporary manager will be keen to impress, maybe there are a few players that want to too.

Boro still in with a sniff of the play offs, so they will be expecting a win here. I work with a fair few Boro fans so would quite like a win. I won't be troubling Bet 365 with that notion though...
 
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Will be interesting to see how we approach this, the temporary manager will be keen to impress, maybe there are a few players that want to too.

Boro still in with a sniff of the play offs, so they will be expecting a win here. I work with a fair few Boro fans so would quite like a win. I won't be troubling Bet 365 with that notion though...
Part of me hopes we get a good hiding in the last two games, just so it makes it much harder for Knapper to give his mate Wilshire the job full time
 
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Part of me hopes we get a good hiding in the last two games, just so it makes it much harder for Knapper to give his mate Wilshire the job full time
Much the same feeling even if I want to win every game.
My take on former (successful) players is that I always think they've less to prove to themselves. Their first goal, their international careers, the famous managers they've played for, the adulation they've already received, the huge stadiums they've played at....all eclipse what they might achieve with their new team. The hunger isn't quite there. Whereas a player in an average career for comparison might feel there's more to do. There is an additional drive. I don't think (could be wrong) that Wilshere has much to prove. It might just be something you do after your career ends. Only so many media jobs going too.

A manager has to have something about him, a depth of character. After all, he is father figure for many players. The best managers (Ferguson, Mourinho, Clough, Wenger or whoever else you decide on your list) always have a combination of depth and determination/ drive. Farke had it - the bloke had a lot to prove. Maybe Thorup did but it wasn't obvious.

Interesting, as posters have said, who gets picked for the next two games and if they show up.

As for making a decision as big as it is for us based on two matches, before even considering the possible field??? ....then Knapper would need his head examining. Surely he would never install someone on that kind of basis? I would seriously question such a decision and the jury is still out for me about him anyway. Of course, any decision is bound to reflect on him as Thorup does. But he ought to be allowed a relative failure. Two in a row would be unconscionable.
 
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Much the same feeling even if I want to win every game.
My take on former (successful) players is that I always think they've less to prove to themselves. Their first goal, their international careers, the famous managers they've played for, the adulation they've already received, the huge stadiums they've played at....all eclipse what they might achieve with their new team. The hunger isn't quite there. Whereas a player in an average career for comparison might feel there's more to do. There is an additional drive. I don't think (could be wrong) that Wilshere has much to prove. It might just be something you do after your career ends. Only so many media jobs going too.

A manager has to have something about him, a depth of character. After all, he is father figure for many players. The best managers (Ferguson, Mourinho, Clough, Wenger or whoever else you decide on your list) always have a combination of depth and determination/ drive. Farke had it - the bloke had a lot to prove. Maybe Thorup did but it wasn't obvious.

Interesting, as posters have said, who gets picked for the next two games and if they show up.

As for making a decision as big as it is for us based on two matches, before even considering the possible field??? ....then Knapper would need his head examining. Surely he would never install someone on that kind of basis? I would seriously question such a decision and the jury is still out for me about him anyway. Of course, any decision is bound to reflect on him as Thorup does. But he ought to be allowed a relative failure. Two in a row would be unconscionable.
I’ve got no real faith in Knapper. He’s just a numbers droid who has got lucky in my opinion that we’ve now got the yanks in charge who believe that because pure stats work well in baseball (a game where there’s much less variation in comparison to most sports) that can be replicated in football.
With us losing Gunn, the loanees, probably 2 of Sarge, Sainz and Nunez it’s going to be a massive rebuild in the summer, and I’ve no faith that filling the squad with more teenagers whose stats look good will result in anything but a brush with relegation
 
Fenway Frank

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Ten minutes before kickoff and sexy Bennett on twitter has just tweeted the word wow, looks like it could be an interesting line up
 
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So what do we think of Mr. Wilshire? I think he hasn't done his chances any harm at all after that.
 
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Sonyc

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So what do we think of Mr. Wilshire? I think he hasn't done his chances any harm at all after that.
No harm. An improvement in the set up and probably played more to player strengths. Less messing about at the back.

I wonder too though whether anyone might have got a lift out of the group after the last few weeks of JHT.
 
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No harm. An improvement in the set up and probably played more to player strengths. Less messing about at the back.

I wonder too though whether anyone might have got a lift out of the group after the last few weeks of JHT.
You often get a bit of a lift. The fringe players suddenly eye an opportunity to force their way into the first team, and the regular first team players are suddenly less comfortable.
The team did look more solid, though it was a fairly low bar to beat in that regard
 
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gerryinromania

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I enjoyed watching that, first time in a while, players seemed happier too.
Duffy, a rock.. Nunez a limp lettuce leaf. Gunn played like a goalkeeper today. Stacey was good. Wright and McConville impressed. Defence played well. only Gibbs of the subs played ok
 
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Spent the day travelling off on my holidays and only just checked the score.

Will take a nil nil over recent horror shows. No idea if he meant it or not but hopefully JW sensibly steadying the ship.
 
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